Jose Luis Espertnational deputy, said that the ideas of the liberalism They permeated society to such an extent that the conditions have ripened for joining the opposition front. “In 2021 I propose a mega PASO opposition to beat Kicillof”, he recorded in Fontevecchia modeby net tv and RadioProfile (FM 101.9).
What reflection does it generate for those who get angry on the hard wing, from the hawks of Together for Change, for their incorporation into the opposition coalition?
I feel sorry. I think that we add a lot of value to Together for Change, because we bring common sense ideas that apply to the world where people thrive. We bring liberalism.
I believe that the space of Together for Change, with our incorporation, widens and it modernizes. Start talking about what people need, about how we are going to solve specific problems. Solutions that undoubtedly go through liberalism.
Espert launched his presidential candidacy to compete within JxC
I believe that we generate added value, we add clarity to the discussion, 30 years of saying the same thing. This little plant of liberalism in Argentina, which has grown a lot, it began politically in 2019 with us, with my presidential candidacy, after 30 years of liberalism not having an openly liberal candidate for president, since Alvaro Alsogaray.
I think we have grown a lot, and what we want is carry out that great added value to a new space where we come together with Together for Change, which is a great defense of the institutions, the Republic and democracy. I think we create value.
The internal fights that exist between candidates that already existed before our admission do not matter to me. I think that clearly added votes, ideas and freshness to a space that was needing it, which is seen in the light of the results it is having in the elections. We make a great contribution to society and Together for Change.
De la Torre: “We should make a front in the Province and include Milei”
I I have to thank Juntos por el Cambio very much The way they opened the door for me, they treated me very well. There will be people who will not be very happy. I am happy to have ended up coming together in this new opposition space that includes liberalism at a table on an equal footing with the historical members of Together for Change, which are the PRO, the UCR, the Civic Coalition and the Republican and Federal Meeting.
You have pointed out something with which I agree, but it is not what most analysts say, which is that what is happening in the provincial elections gives indications of what may happen in the national elections. You say that these provincial elections show that Together for Change needs you…
Also the surveys. If the provincial elections are not enough demonstrations, we can look at the polls.
I believe that the decline that Juntos por el Cambio is having in public acceptance, in many surveys, shows the need to express a renewal, a broadening, incorporate people who are just entering politics, as is my case. I have been a national deputy for barely a year and a half and it is the first time in my life that I have done professional politics, in the sense of receiving a salary from the State.
Rodríguez Larreta kicked the idea of ”a new front” to the National Table
I am obsessive that politics and politicians have to be at the service of the people. If people are rotten from politicians today it is because Politics talks a lot to itself and talks little to people of the problems that the same policy has generated: a savage tax pressure, labor laws that discourage employers from hiring, that everything is very expensive for not trading with the world.
All these are problems that have been generated by politics and that the policy has the obligation to present a solution. Wherever you look at it, I think this opposition space adds value to the space that was previously Together for Change.
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A different element between what the provincial elections and the polls indicate is the case of Javier Milei, who fails to obtain a result in the provinces that suggests that he can really reach the ballot.
In some provinces, polls gave him a 30% preference. A guest indicated in the program the difficulty involved in setting up a new party, without sufficient structure and capillarity, in a country as large as Argentina. Would this show that your strategy of joining Together for Change is correct and Milei’s is incorrect?
Before answering your question, I want to say that, regarding what the difficulties of going alone imply, they are not going to tell me, because in 2019 I experienced it firsthand. At the beginning of the year we measured, according to the surveys, 4 or 5 points, and we ended up at 1.5% due to lack of territorial development and the crack, among other things.
Without a doubt, walking alone is very difficult, but I I am not going to misjudge that Milei plays outsidebecause it is following the path that I followed in 2019. I am already in another stage, in which I consider that the ideas of freedom have already permeated society and politics enough to continue with what I already tried in 2021, which has now ended successfully.
Gerardo Morales: “It is not right that in JvC they are located near Milei because it blurs us”
In 2021 I proposed a mega opposition STEP to beat Kicillof, at that time it was not possible, now we have finally managed to come together with Together for Change in a new space where liberalism will compete with its own list against the candidates that are presented.
This is important to point out. Confluence with Together for Change in the PASO to compete. People are going to find a very liberal list that is going to compete against the list of the radicals, that of Larreta and that of Bullrich. That liberal list is going to be headed by me, who will be running for the presidency. The idea is to come together to compete.
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Claudio Mardones (CM): You made a tweet that you later deleted. In it, he had shared a note from the Clarín newspaper in which he reviewed who were the politicians with the most convictions and the most legal cases against them.
In the note, Macri appeared in third place. joaquin de la torre He thought that you “spit in the face” of the homeowner and said that it is not defined how your entry into Together for Change will be articulated, understanding that it refers to the province of Buenos Aires. How is your entry into the Province of Buenos Aires going to be expressed, which is a key territory in this electoral scenario?
We have already entered this new opposition space. From there, each force will do what they want with their lists. We have just analyzed my candidacy on Saturday at the Book Fair, we are just beginning the discussion of the construction of the lists.
At this moment I can not tell you who will be the candidate for liberal governor who is going to compete for our list in the Province.
The Buenos Aires PJ defined the names that will assemble the electoral front, with a gesture to Alberto Fernández
CM: Some think that you could have been the gubernatorial candidate for your space. Do you have the prospect of adding a guest or do you think it will be someone who will emerge from your political force?
The idea is to compete. Let there be a very clear liberal list, in particular, in the main districts. Now, for the closing of lists and for the STEP, there is a long way to go. We have to see what will happen in the country. One does things looking at what others do and what happens to the country.
I got into politics to contribute to solving people’s problems. It is still too early to say if there will be unit lists in some district, because we just closed the deal.
The important thing is that people are going to have a choice of a liberal space, of common sense, which proposes that in Argentina things are done that are already proven to work in the world and they do good to people.
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Alexander Gomel (AG): The anger of the “hawks” is because it is considered that you take votes from Bullrich in the internal. They accuse him of playing for Larreta in the internship…
I would tell people who think like this to agree. In 2019 they told me that it was functional to Cristina for going alone, Now they say that I am fully functionalI can never compete because I always have some functionality.
The correct way to see it is that Jose Luis Esperta guy who has been militating liberalism all his life, always says the same thing (that Argentina has to open up to the world, reduce the size of the State, make labor laws more flexible), and coincided with Together for Change.
Due to the disaster that populism ended up making in the country, liberal ideas began to have a lot of classification, so to speak. As the one who started the liberal movement in 2019, I think that today the situation is ripe to put that proposal for a large aircraft carrier within, which is this space that we have built with Together for Change.
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The fact that there are interns is an issue that does not concern me, it concerns them. What’s more, if we are going to talk about who I get votes from, I think I can get more votes from Horacio Rodríguez Larreta than from Patricia Bullrich. Bullrich’s vote is tougher and Larreta’s more volatile.
I don’t even agree with the political analysis. The civic analysis should be: “it’s good that the main aircraft carrier opposed to this Argentine curse that is Kirchnerism, which I think is the worst thing that happened to democracyit enlarges, it updated with the serious liberalism that Avanza Libertad and José Luis Espert represent”.
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